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Post by helenabear on Mar 12, 2024 21:55:29 GMT -5
What linked posting are you referring to? The article I posted said how it was like what they did at VGF before sales opened with BPK rooms. It was confirmed in December at the association meeting. This move seals it for those who took legal garbage as anything other than CYA that they will be same association. Some of the naysayers were vocal and put doubt when there shouldn't have been any. From the link you posted: Back in December, Disney Vacation Club representative seemingly confirmed that the two would be merged. However more than 3 months since making those statements, no additional clarification has been forthcoming. Emphasis on "seemingly" and "no additional clarification" mine. Again, just based on the actual wording in the article.
Cheers. Huh, when I read it the article linked from that article it was confirmed. I'm a bit baffled by the take on this because of this link. dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/polynesian/5773-confirmed-polynesian-tower-to-be-part-of-current-associationI also know the author and they never have thought anything but confirmed in all comments elsewhere on the web. But moving on. It's not supposedly confirmed, it is confirmed. Nor did it need further clarification because it was, indeed, confirmed. I admittedly am tired of a rare few saying anything but this. Even the big bad board has people tired of saying "seemingly" because it wasn't meant to be anything but legit and confirmed at that meeting. That's exciting.....Get the top floor, theme park view! Is it safe to assume the studio points will be the same as the current Poly points chart? When purchasing a FW, I don’t think you can pick a location just views. I guess I will have to see what the points are for each view. I guess standard, lake view and theme park views. I wonder how they will incorporate the current Poly chart into the new Tower chart? As much as I would like to buy a FW, I will have to see what this is all going to cost. Wants vs needs LOL Two deal breakers for me are if the new Poly Tower ends up in the new Trust, and really high MF’s. So lots of info still to be released. Trust will not affect you in any way, shape or form. Considering the cabins didn't have it, I doubt it's coming any time soon. If it does, it won't affect you as an owner. Towers tend to have lower MFs. The resort also shares certain costs with resort guests. Double win. Don't let crazies on the internet make you think this is going to be anything but good for you. Get that fixed week and enjoy. |
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Post by tomandrobin on Mar 13, 2024 7:35:01 GMT -5
That's exciting.....Get the top floor, theme park view! Is it safe to assume the studio points will be the same as the current Poly points chart? When purchasing a FW, I don’t think you can pick a location just views. I guess I will have to see what the points are for each view. I guess standard, lake view and theme park views. I wonder how they will incorporate the current Poly chart into the new Tower chart? As much as I would like to buy a FW, I will have to see what this is all going to cost. Wants vs needs LOL Two deal breakers for me are if the new Poly Tower ends up in the new Trust, and really high MF’s. So lots of info still to be released. The points will be the same "if" they are labeled the same. For example, at VGF the standard and Lakeview are the same, but DVC added Theme Park View. I suspect that the Poly Tower will get one new view....theme park.
The MF will be the same as is now at Poly.
I would not worry about the trust thing. Its not going to hurt you having a fixed week.
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Post by tomandrobin on Mar 13, 2024 7:38:59 GMT -5
Is it safe to assume the studio points will be the same as the current Poly points chart? When purchasing a FW, I don’t think you can pick a location just views. I guess I will have to see what the points are for each view. I guess standard, lake view and theme park views. I wonder how they will incorporate the current Poly chart into the new Tower chart? As much as I would like to buy a FW, I will have to see what this is all going to cost. Wants vs needs LOL Two deal breakers for me are if the new Poly Tower ends up in the new Trust, and really high MF’s. So lots of info still to be released. Trust will not affect you in any way, shape or form. Considering the cabins didn't have it, I doubt it's coming any time soon. If it does, it won't affect you as an owner. Towers tend to have lower MFs. The resort also shares certain costs with resort guests. Double win. Don't let crazies on the internet make you think this is going to be anything but good for you. Get that fixed week and enjoy. Yup....Buy where you want to stay. Buy resale when you can, buy direct if it makes sense. This has been my #1 mantra since being a DVC owner and advocate.
If you want a fixed week at Poly Tower, I say go for it. The price for a fixed week at the new tower will never be lower than the presale release pricing. |
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Post by brp on Mar 13, 2024 8:40:56 GMT -5
No worries. I did not read the embedded link, just the one you posted, and I highlighted the specific words I was referring to that made it less than clear, in that article, and nowhere else. Just that. But, it will be what it will be. It's all good. Cheers. |
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Post by BWV Dreamin on Mar 13, 2024 8:46:10 GMT -5
From the link you posted: Emphasis on "seemingly" and "no additional clarification" mine. Again, just based on the actual wording in the article.
Cheers. Huh, when I read it the article linked from that article it was confirmed. I'm a bit baffled by the take on this because of this link. dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/polynesian/5773-confirmed-polynesian-tower-to-be-part-of-current-associationI also know the author and they never have thought anything but confirmed in all comments elsewhere on the web. But moving on. It's not supposedly confirmed, it is confirmed. Nor did it need further clarification because it was, indeed, confirmed. I admittedly am tired of a rare few saying anything but this. Even the big bad board has people tired of saying "seemingly" because it wasn't meant to be anything but legit and confirmed at that meeting. Is it safe to assume the studio points will be the same as the current Poly points chart? When purchasing a FW, I don’t think you can pick a location just views. I guess I will have to see what the points are for each view. I guess standard, lake view and theme park views. I wonder how they will incorporate the current Poly chart into the new Tower chart? As much as I would like to buy a FW, I will have to see what this is all going to cost. Wants vs needs LOL Two deal breakers for me are if the new Poly Tower ends up in the new Trust, and really high MF’s. So lots of info still to be released. Trust will not affect you in any way, shape or form. Considering the cabins didn't have it, I doubt it's coming any time soon. If it does, it won't affect you as an owner. Towers tend to have lower MFs. The resort also shares certain costs with resort guests. Double win. Don't let crazies on the internet make you think this is going to be anything but good for you. Get that fixed week and enjoy. ((Hugs)) Thank you for your reply. Truthfully I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this Trust thing. I guess the biggest concern is the priority booking. Great info on those MF’s!! |
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Post by BWV Dreamin on Mar 13, 2024 8:47:52 GMT -5
Trust will not affect you in any way, shape or form. Considering the cabins didn't have it, I doubt it's coming any time soon. If it does, it won't affect you as an owner. Towers tend to have lower MFs. The resort also shares certain costs with resort guests. Double win. Don't let crazies on the internet make you think this is going to be anything but good for you. Get that fixed week and enjoy. Yup....Buy where you want to stay. Buy resale when you can, buy direct if it makes sense. This has been my #1 mantra since being a DVC owner and advocate.
If you want a fixed week at Poly Tower, I say go for it. The price for a fixed week at the new tower will never be lower than the presale release pricing. Yes is why I want to take advantage of that early pricing. Thanks for your input ! |
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Post by helenabear on Mar 13, 2024 16:05:04 GMT -5
No worries. I did not read the embedded link, just the one you posted, and I highlighted the specific words I was referring to that made it less than clear, in that article, and nowhere else. Just that. But, it will be what it will be. It's all good. Cheers. I get it. I am not sure if I saw that wording before when I read it (show week so brain isn't sharp as I am far busier than usual). It says last updated but not sure if something changed. I swear I didn't see such vague posting. But yeah that article was more ambiguous even though same author has said it's all but legally confirmed in ink. Huh, when I read it the article linked from that article it was confirmed. I'm a bit baffled by the take on this because of this link. dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/polynesian/5773-confirmed-polynesian-tower-to-be-part-of-current-associationI also know the author and they never have thought anything but confirmed in all comments elsewhere on the web. But moving on. It's not supposedly confirmed, it is confirmed. Nor did it need further clarification because it was, indeed, confirmed. I admittedly am tired of a rare few saying anything but this. Even the big bad board has people tired of saying "seemingly" because it wasn't meant to be anything but legit and confirmed at that meeting. Trust will not affect you in any way, shape or form. Considering the cabins didn't have it, I doubt it's coming any time soon. If it does, it won't affect you as an owner. Towers tend to have lower MFs. The resort also shares certain costs with resort guests. Double win. Don't let crazies on the internet make you think this is going to be anything but good for you. Get that fixed week and enjoy. ((Hugs)) Thank you for your reply. Truthfully I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around this Trust thing. I guess the biggest concern is the priority booking. Great info on those MF’s!! Of course anything could change, but at least based off of History I'm not worried about MFs at all! The trust thing is so weird and honestly I think it's not going to be an issue for current owners. I don't know how they're going to use it or if they're even going to use it at this point. I expected that if it was going to be going forward, the cabins would have been part of it. But, that was a no go. And considering how many months ago this whole thing came out, they would have had time to do something with the cabins if they wanted to. I'm just not sure what the goal is. I do know that if you are an owner currently at the resort it won't make any difference for you. |
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Post by helenabear on Mar 30, 2024 16:08:13 GMT -5
BWV DreaminFor when you get back, hopefully you'll see this. After spending four nights in a one-bedroom is kind of a test run for us, we have decided that we really do like two bedrooms more for longer trips. Mostly when someone is sleeping in a little and the other wants to make breakfast or the like. I decided to try and make some rough guesstimates on how many points per night everything will be at the polynesian. Assuming that there will be three views based on the layout (I could be wrong, but it's a strong possibility) of standard, preferred/garden/pool, and theme park. I compared points from PVB to VGF studios first to see when PVB is more points, when it is less, and when it is the same (average difference is 1.017 to 1 with PVB being more by a hair but lower seasons it is less). Then I looked at rate of increases with VGF from standards to theme park. Cross checked point costs as rate of increases to both room sizes to view premiums. Those numbers gave me guesses for all the views and room sizes outside of a GV and Duos. I opted to leave GVs off since I haven’t seen them on floor plans. I used Riviera for similar methods for duos. I got this using all the data  Fixed weeks have a premium and of course these could be way off but it is all I could go on.
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Post by helenabear on Mar 30, 2024 16:09:14 GMT -5
Oh if anyone wants to see the full spreadsheet I can share a Google drive link.
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Post by BWV Dreamin on Apr 2, 2024 9:42:35 GMT -5
This is a fantastic chart. I realize I need 150 points for a standard studio, but I don’t want to buy that much! Especially direct unless it is a FW. Any possibility we may see opening prices south of $225? Thinking about week 48.
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Post by helenabear on Apr 2, 2024 10:21:51 GMT -5
This is a fantastic chart. I realize I need 150 points for a standard studio, but I don’t want to buy that much! Especially direct unless it is a FW. Any possibility we may see opening prices south of $225? Thinking about week 48. Keep in mind these are guesstimates but based on actual data so it could be right or way off. I did notice the tower studios will have one bath only but the 1 and 2 bedrooms will have 2 h 3 respectively based on floor plans. I'm unsure if tower studios will be same points as current and I'm not completely 100% sure on 3 room types. The theme park will be some of the best views currently outside of bungalows. Anyway, I think opening they'll want to give some bonus if probably 100-150 minimum for add ons but it may not be a lot. They halted direct sales but no clue when it will go on sale. Maybe in the next 3-4 months if we're lucky. DVC sales are sluggish. With Riviera, Ft W, and Aulani, people just aren't snapping up contracts. They might offer something good. I am guessing 130-150+ points for me. Likely resale all the way. As long as I keep my original PVB contracts I'll keep my status. Even if I sell OKW |
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Post by BWV Dreamin on Apr 2, 2024 13:12:11 GMT -5
I keep watching the resales. I just cant justify the direct pricing right now. But nothing much in my September UY. What to do! Ugg.
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Post by helenabear on Apr 2, 2024 13:44:55 GMT -5
I actually have a number I can pick from right now. I'm just kind of unsure. I had done this spreadsheet to help me decide. It didn't at all.
There is a fully loaded contract in my UY and I could recoup some costs but that means I have to rent all of the banked points or I lose the bonus of getting them.
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Post by rowrbazzle on Apr 2, 2024 20:52:17 GMT -5
Thanks for doing all that work helenabear! We only do studios, but it's still interesting to me to see how it will all work out.
One thing I hope they don't do is reclassify the existing standard view rooms as something else - raising the points. Other than one side of Pago Pago, the standard views all have nice views of the grounds, but they'd all just be "normal" view rooms at the hotel. I could certainly see the backside of the tower and maybe those Pago Pago rooms being less desirable, but I'd be frustrated to have to pay more just to stay in our typical Tokelau room.
I also wonder if they'll adjust the bungalows down at all (I haven't compared your #s to the current ones so maybe you accounted for that). I know there was speculation about that for years, but it never really came to fruition. Given an influx of points and room types this would seem like the opportunity to do it. But I'm guessing they won't.
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Post by helenabear on Apr 2, 2024 22:30:34 GMT -5
Thanks for doing all that work helenabear! We only do studios, but it's still interesting to me to see how it will all work out. One thing I hope they don't do is reclassify the existing standard view rooms as something else - raising the points. Other than one side of Pago Pago, the standard views all have nice views of the grounds, but they'd all just be "normal" view rooms at the hotel. I could certainly see the backside of the tower and maybe those Pago Pago rooms being less desirable, but I'd be frustrated to have to pay more just to stay in our typical Tokelau room. I also wonder if they'll adjust the bungalows down at all (I haven't compared your #s to the current ones so maybe you accounted for that). I know there was speculation about that for years, but it never really came to fruition. Given an influx of points and room types this would seem like the opportunity to do it. But I'm guessing they won't. They adjusted once for bungalows but if they do it again, it'll be 2026 we see it. These are 2025 point charts that are out there so no speculating on that. I feel you on Pago Pago lot facing vs all the other standards. I do not want to guess how they'll do it but we'll see for sure later this year. If VGF didn't capitalize on the theme park view I could have been easily convinced on room types. Again these are guesstimates based on data assuming views. Not knowing number of points total that will be available. Not wanting to guess too much. |
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