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Post by cpnkirk on Dec 13, 2023 8:50:47 GMT -5
Basically, you buy an Annual Pass every other year (EOY) but you stagger your trips so that you still go every year, but are 51 weeks apart.
For example, you vacation July 20-27 in 2024, then the following year you go July 12-19 in 2025. The trips fall under one annual pass.
I've never been able to do this on purpose with school schedules, but this year it might be one I kinda do. If they do WDW for spring break band again, it will be 8 months between but still no worries about renewing part way through a trip which is highly annoying with park reservations. This was our plan in the past - we bought an AP when we knew we could fit in 2 trips. Then Covid hit and we couldn't buy a pass for a few years. So when they went on sale again, I jumped on it - a bit premature, honestly, but we are able to just get 2 trips in that time period, so it's ok. I'm still a bit leery about not renewing, but I just don't see 2 trips in the following 12 months so we'll probably take our chances (although I'm feeling better about our chances now). |
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Post by helenabear on Dec 13, 2023 9:00:51 GMT -5
I've never been able to do this on purpose with school schedules, but this year it might be one I kinda do. If they do WDW for spring break band again, it will be 8 months between but still no worries about renewing part way through a trip which is highly annoying with park reservations. This was our plan in the past - we bought an AP when we knew we could fit in 2 trips. Then Covid hit and we couldn't buy a pass for a few years. So when they went on sale again, I jumped on it - a bit premature, honestly, but we are able to just get 2 trips in that time period, so it's ok. I'm still a bit leery about not renewing, but I just don't see 2 trips in the following 12 months so we'll probably take our chances (although I'm feeling better about our chances now). I should clarify we have done 2 or 3 trips per AP, but never two that were 51 weeks apart and had them be our only trips in an AP. I'm getting 4 out of this current (well 3 full and part of 1). It's just luck that our last day in June is the last day of our AP. At this point I really do want to reset our renewal date too. But I'm kind of waiting to see what spring break might be in 2025 with the band. I'm really not worried about APs selling out either. |
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Post by mcd on Dec 13, 2023 21:37:11 GMT -5
I haven't been on here in several days. Just saw this!! I am SO happy. I have almost 500 points at Poly, and I have a family of 6. So 2 bedroom options besides the bungalows will be so nice.
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Post by tomandrobin on Dec 14, 2023 6:37:18 GMT -5
I haven't been on here in several days. Just saw this!! I am SO happy. I have almost 500 points at Poly, and I have a family of 6. So 2 bedroom options besides the bungalows will be so nice. Honestly, I am happy for all the phase 1 owners. They deserved more than just a studio option for the resort. |
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Post by Brian5581 on Dec 14, 2023 21:56:20 GMT -5
For NorCal, I can pretty reliably predict no rain next July 4, though 
Cheers.
What about the surest bet for dry?
On the other end of the nation, you'll find several areas where it has never rained on the Fourth of July (at least, since records have been kept).
San Francisco, Los Angeles, Sacramento and San Diego in California all report zero days with measurable rain on July Fourth – though, in 1898, the rain gauge at the USC campus in downtown Los Angeles did record 0.07 inches of rain. It's the only such rain measured in the L.A. area on July Fourth since the late 19th century.
This is a pretty amazing fact that I have never heard before.
Wow, that is something. I’ll go with a 50% chance here. |
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Post by jnoel on Jan 10, 2024 9:30:58 GMT -5
How sure are we about this? Other than the 'slip-up' during the condo Q&A has this been made official through the proper channels?
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Post by helenabear on Jan 10, 2024 13:31:07 GMT -5
How sure are we about this? Other than the 'slip-up' during the condo Q&A has this been made official through the proper channels? Very! It wasn't a slip up either but a planted question. They don't take every single question there. They intentionally had this question so they could give us some bit of news outside of refurb and super vagueness with the lounge. I have only seen one place actually try to claim it was a slip up, but for the most part everyone has shot that down in the end. The only people lingering saying that it was not what it was, I think our ones who are mad they were wrong about the association. In case people are unaware, it has been incredibly common for the condo association meeting to give new information that might be of interest to members. If anyone thinks this was not planned, I suggest they look at recordings that some have done a past meetings and see what they try and do at these. The q&a part is almost always questions they want to answer now. And given the fact that Disney did not refute it officially anywhere and guides were starting to be allowed to discuss it was a new association, we all know it's good. Now unless some legal weirdness happens, this is what we're going to get. Also to add years ago, this was the plan all along. And I can tell you from things stated in the very early days of the announcement and some comments made from super high up Disney people, it was always hinted that it was meant to be the same association. Coupling that with the ROFR data, you can tell that Disney has been planning this for quite some time. It follows other associations that have been added to with how they did or did not purchase contracts during resale ROFR. |
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Post by pooh bears mom on Jan 10, 2024 14:41:51 GMT -5
I haven't been on here in several days. Just saw this!! I am SO happy. I have almost 500 points at Poly, and I have a family of 6. So 2 bedroom options besides the bungalows will be so nice. Honestly, I am happy for all the phase 1 owners. They deserved more than just a studio option for the resort. Agree. I am not sure what they were thinking when they did that. I also think DVC knows the resale restrictions are hurting sales - RIV should have been sold out by now. I wonder if they are re-examining that policy or if they will institute a resort change fee for the resale purchasers - something similar to the resort points, where once you change out of RIV, you can't use your points there but can use them at the other dvc resorts. i venture to guess poly resale prices will be on the rise too. |
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Post by helenabear on Jan 10, 2024 14:57:46 GMT -5
Honestly, I am happy for all the phase 1 owners. They deserved more than just a studio option for the resort. Agree. I am not sure what they were thinking when they did that. I also think DVC knows the resale restrictions are hurting sales - RIV should have been sold out by now. I wonder if they are re-examining that policy or if they will institute a resort change fee for the resale purchasers - something similar to the resort points, where once you change out of RIV, you can't use your points there but can use them at the other dvc resorts. i venture to guess poly resale prices will be on the rise too. No idea either why they did that. It was in original plans to have it done that way too (building separate for more rooms). PVB resales actually currently are similar to before. I'm watching and deciding my next step for adding on. Riviera is now 75.4% declared. Last year was a slow year for them too with under 60% declared at the end of 2022. They did do the restrictions on Disneyland Hotel but I don't think CA has the same issues FL does. There are so few rooms there many who own at a CA resort pretty much only use it there. Though the transient tax could hurt. |
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Post by lovindisney on Jan 11, 2024 8:17:12 GMT -5
Hopefully, with new sales at Polynesian, the Cabins and ongoing sales at Riviera and Aulani prices may be inticing!
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Post by baymaxfan on Jan 11, 2024 10:34:11 GMT -5
Agree. I am not sure what they were thinking when they did that. I also think DVC knows the resale restrictions are hurting sales - RIV should have been sold out by now. I wonder if they are re-examining that policy or if they will institute a resort change fee for the resale purchasers - something similar to the resort points, where once you change out of RIV, you can't use your points there but can use them at the other dvc resorts. i venture to guess poly resale prices will be on the rise too. No idea either why they did that. It was in original plans to have it done that way too (building separate for more rooms). PVB resales actually currently are similar to before. I'm watching and deciding my next step for adding on. Riviera is now 75.4% declared. Last year was a slow year for them too with under 60% declared at the end of 2022. They did do the restrictions on Disneyland Hotel but I don't think CA has the same issues FL does. There are so few rooms there many who own at a CA resort pretty much only use it there. Though the transient tax could hurt. From what I read somewhere, I don't think VDH is selling well. After a solid first couple of presale months (sales started in May 2023), sales have lagged. I think only ~18% of the resort is declared. VDH has a high price per point, high point per room, and the TOT to boot. While a studio does give a significant price discount vs. the hotel room at the Disneyland Hotel, it is still more expensive that most of the hotels that line Harbor Blvd. VDH is also actually further from the resorts than several of the Harbor Blvd hotels. Thus, VDH really becomes a luxury purchase. We own there, but realized it was a super luxury purchase. I do think it will sell faster than Rivera (or poor Aulani), but it does not seem to be going like hot cakes. |
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Post by helenabear on Jan 11, 2024 12:47:59 GMT -5
No idea either why they did that. It was in original plans to have it done that way too (building separate for more rooms). PVB resales actually currently are similar to before. I'm watching and deciding my next step for adding on. Riviera is now 75.4% declared. Last year was a slow year for them too with under 60% declared at the end of 2022. They did do the restrictions on Disneyland Hotel but I don't think CA has the same issues FL does. There are so few rooms there many who own at a CA resort pretty much only use it there. Though the transient tax could hurt. From what I read somewhere, I don't think VDH is selling well. After a solid first couple of presale months (sales started in May 2023), sales have lagged. I think only ~18% of the resort is declared. VDH has a high price per point, high point per room, and the TOT to boot. While a studio does give a significant price discount vs. the hotel room at the Disneyland Hotel, it is still more expensive that most of the hotels that line Harbor Blvd. VDH is also actually further from the resorts than several of the Harbor Blvd hotels. Thus, VDH really becomes a luxury purchase. We own there, but realized it was a super luxury purchase. I do think it will sell faster than Rivera (or poor Aulani), but it does not seem to be going like hot cakes. Admittedly I wasn't following that one as much but probably should (and should update some spreadsheets I have). Interesting, but not totally surprising, to hear it's not going great. It definitely has a lot of negatives to it. I would guess it should sell faster than RR but not sure by how much. I'll try to pay attention more in the next few months |
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Post by tomandrobin on Jan 12, 2024 10:19:52 GMT -5
From what I read somewhere, I don't think VDH is selling well. After a solid first couple of presale months (sales started in May 2023), sales have lagged. I think only ~18% of the resort is declared. VDH has a high price per point, high point per room, and the TOT to boot. While a studio does give a significant price discount vs. the hotel room at the Disneyland Hotel, it is still more expensive that most of the hotels that line Harbor Blvd. VDH is also actually further from the resorts than several of the Harbor Blvd hotels. Thus, VDH really becomes a luxury purchase. We own there, but realized it was a super luxury purchase. I do think it will sell faster than Rivera (or poor Aulani), but it does not seem to be going like hot cakes.
This is correct.
Sales have fallen flat. MF is high with the taxes, and resale restrictions are hurting the sales. Plus, the "local" need for DVC timeshare usage is small and limited vs Florida. Once that local demand was met, sales are struggling.
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Post by tomandrobin on Jan 12, 2024 10:24:00 GMT -5
Agree. I am not sure what they were thinking when they did that. I also think DVC knows the resale restrictions are hurting sales - RIV should have been sold out by now. I wonder if they are re-examining that policy or if they will institute a resort change fee for the resale purchasers - something similar to the resort points, where once you change out of RIV, you can't use your points there but can use them at the other dvc resorts. i venture to guess poly resale prices will be on the rise too. No....The resale restrictions will stay for all new resorts. This will benefit Disney/DVC in the long run. Again, Disney is playing the long game....restrictions, trust, 2042.
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Post by mcd on Feb 13, 2024 8:06:31 GMT -5
I definitely have not seen a bounce in resale prices of Poly after the news the tower is part of the original resort. Some speculated that would happen. I thought it might, also, but it look like demand just isn't there like folks have said. It will be interesting to see what new sales look like when that starts.
This might be a dumb question, but why does Disney keep building new DVC buildings with such waning sales? I know the planning starts far far in advance, but I would think the last few years would impact their plans in the near future.
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