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Post by BWV Dreamin on Sept 16, 2023 7:53:05 GMT -5
I buy Disney + for my grandkids. I have a separate Hulu subscription ( Black Friday deal) that my son and daughter-in-law like to watch. Both subscriptions are coming due for renewal. I am looking at the Disney+/Hulu bundle add version for 9.99/ month. I would gladly pay an extra couple bucks to add Apple to the bundle. My son is all about Apple and its ecosystem. What does Disney have to lose?
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Post by disney54us on Sept 16, 2023 8:45:12 GMT -5
Well, you are correct. Disney IT sucks. That’s a good aspect I didn’t think about. It would definitely be a improvement.
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Post by captjacksfamily on Sept 16, 2023 10:11:53 GMT -5
Although Apple could certainly buy Disney I think a lot of the hype around this is based on the section of Iger's book where he states that Disney and Apple would be one if Jobs was still alive. As others have said not sure it is a great fit now. As Tom mentioned in the first post I think the question is was Iger brought in to save Disney or to dismantle it.
I also agree with Tom that the CP, PI and even the seasonal employees are extremely important as a group of relatively cheap employees that are happy doing their jobs and not necessarily interested to be full time and get benefits or move up in the company to higher cost (to Disney) positions.
As far as the buses and transportation goes; Yes they could out source this but I think the next major change will be some level of autonomous driving. What will probably hold this back is that for safety they would probably need to add bus only lanes that are operated seperate from the general public drivers. After all the 10% of drivers mentioned in another thread would certainly screw up self driving buses.
Yes Disney IT sucks but how many of us don't do Disney because of their bad IT? Most find a work around and keep on truck'n, if it is not costing Disney money why should they improve their IT which would certainly cost them $$$. As far as Apple tech goes it could be cool, but what I believe they need is better apps and IT interfaces that actually work and this is probably better done by smaller third party developers than bigger legacy companies. Tech moves so fast these days it hard for large lethargic companies to keep up.
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Post by brp on Sept 17, 2023 12:29:32 GMT -5
As Tom mentioned in the first post I think the question is was Iger brought in to save Disney or to dismantle it. Perhaps those are the same thing.
Cheers.
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Post by henrycpa on Sept 18, 2023 10:24:53 GMT -5
Although Apple could certainly buy Disney I think a lot of the hype around this is based on the section of Iger's book where he states that Disney and Apple would be one if Jobs was still alive. As others have said not sure it is a great fit now. As Tom mentioned in the first post I think the question is was Iger brought in to save Disney or to dismantle it. I also agree with Tom that the CP, PI and even the seasonal employees are extremely important as a group of relatively cheap employees that are happy doing their jobs and not necessarily interested to be full time and get benefits or move up in the company to higher cost (to Disney) positions. As far as the buses and transportation goes; Yes they could out source this but I think the next major change will be some level of autonomous driving. What will probably hold this back is that for safety they would probably need to add bus only lanes that are operated seperate from the general public drivers. After all the 10% of drivers mentioned in another thread would certainly screw up self driving buses. Yes Disney IT sucks but how many of us don't do Disney because of their bad IT? Most find a work around and keep on truck'n, if it is not costing Disney money why should they improve their IT which would certainly cost them $$$. As far as Apple tech goes it could be cool, but what I believe they need is better apps and IT interfaces that actually work and this is probably better done by smaller third party developers than bigger legacy companies. Tech moves so fast these days it hard for large lethargic companies to keep up. As Tom mentioned in the first post I think the question is was Iger brought in to save Disney or to dismantle it. Perhaps those are the same thing.
Cheers.
I was going to say those things are not mutually exclusive.... |
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Post by brp on Sept 18, 2023 10:54:57 GMT -5
Although Apple could certainly buy Disney I think a lot of the hype around this is based on the section of Iger's book where he states that Disney and Apple would be one if Jobs was still alive. As others have said not sure it is a great fit now. As Tom mentioned in the first post I think the question is was Iger brought in to save Disney or to dismantle it. I also agree with Tom that the CP, PI and even the seasonal employees are extremely important as a group of relatively cheap employees that are happy doing their jobs and not necessarily interested to be full time and get benefits or move up in the company to higher cost (to Disney) positions. As far as the buses and transportation goes; Yes they could out source this but I think the next major change will be some level of autonomous driving. What will probably hold this back is that for safety they would probably need to add bus only lanes that are operated seperate from the general public drivers. After all the 10% of drivers mentioned in another thread would certainly screw up self driving buses. Yes Disney IT sucks but how many of us don't do Disney because of their bad IT? Most find a work around and keep on truck'n, if it is not costing Disney money why should they improve their IT which would certainly cost them $$$. As far as Apple tech goes it could be cool, but what I believe they need is better apps and IT interfaces that actually work and this is probably better done by smaller third party developers than bigger legacy companies. Tech moves so fast these days it hard for large lethargic companies to keep up. Perhaps those are the same thing.
Cheers.
I was going to say those things are not mutually exclusive.... Yeah, I think that this is a better way to express it.
Cheers.
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Post by henrycpa on Sept 20, 2023 9:25:19 GMT -5
This post is dated but something I put on another website 2 years ago... I thought it might be an interesting discussion to consider who or what might be in place in 2 years after Iger really retires.... I think some changes may be in order. First, look at this page and look at some of the Executive positions: craft.co/the-walt-disney/executivesObviously Iger replaces Chapek there but I have to get down to Diane Jurgens to see something Tech related here and that is not Content. Now look at similar info for Apple: Apple Leadership Notice a difference? LApple actually has execs on the top 2 lines that have something to do with the products and services they sell? Not Disney... They have a VP fo Diversity, one of Compliance, and one of Communications but nothing related to Content or Creativity UNTIL you get down to the 4th line of Executives and Alan Bergman. to me, for a Company like Disney and a company with the history of Disney, they have to more prioritize Customer and Content and right now, that really is not emphasized in the Executive Team. So, will the Iger Replacment come from within the current Exec team. If so, is it from the guy on the 4th line of the Exec team? Next would be D'amaro but he is over the dismal park experience n ow. I wonder if he lasts there. If I was CEO that 4th line of Execs becomes my 2nd line of execs. The Imagineeers have to get back to leading the Brand... Given that, I am not sure the next CEO comes from within...that means look without...or another solution... Today's world is Digital Content and monetization of it. Simply put, I am not sure how society is going to continue to economically support Digital content development at so many different entities: Disney +, Prime, Apple, Netflix, HBO, Showtime, Paramount, Peacock, Hulu and that is just some of the big names... So, likely some leaving market and some consolidation. Could Disney find their next CEO throught merger and Acquisition from a Netflix or similar? I have often thought a partnership with Apple and Disney makes so much sense. Technology wise, Disney has always stuggled. Apple integration could fix that. Apple had good content but is such a small entertainemnt footprint...Disney could fix that. And Apple sitting on hoardes of cash that could benefit Disney But, outside merger, who in the current exec world is savvy enough to lead Disney both creatively and economically after Iger? Don't laugh but I think Jørgen Vig Knudstorp of Lego could be a good choice. His Back to Brick Strategy took Lego back to its core products. Something Disney desparately needs is to revive its Brands "History and product". What say you? |
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Post by Adelard of Bath on Sept 20, 2023 9:45:11 GMT -5
Don't laugh but I think Jørgen Vig Knudstorp of Lego could be a good choice. His Back to Brick Strategy took Lego back to its core products. Something Disney desparately needs is to revive its Brands "History and product". I always say that "nostalgia" has a huge value, and can be a very powerful tool. A company like Disney has tons of it, but I often see them disregarding it or throwing it away completely. At the same time, you don't want to rest on your laurels, so there is a fine balancing act. |
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Post by brp on Sept 20, 2023 10:06:20 GMT -5
Don't laugh but I think Jørgen Vig Knudstorp of Lego could be a good choice. His Back to Brick Strategy took Lego back to its core products. Something Disney desparately needs is to revive its Brands "History and product". I always say that "nostalgia" has a huge value, and can be a very powerful tool. A company like Disney has tons of it, but I often see them disregarding it or throwing it away completely. At the same time, you don't want to rest on your laurels, so there is a fine balancing act.
That's a big issue here. You have a large faction who think about "the old days" and want some of that, and a large faction that want new stuff. And they overlap. A lot. I want new stuff, but I also want the "right" old stuff. And we all have different definitions of "right" here.
A very tough act, indeed.
Cheers,
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Post by henrycpa on Sept 20, 2023 14:01:03 GMT -5
It is always a balancing act. That is a role of leadership. You cannot let your past dictate your future, but you also should not let it fail to inform your future.
In the case of Disney, its past is who it is. It HAS to inform its future. And that is a lauded past, not a tragic past. "The Old Days" are how the succes of the future can be informed...but to do that, a leader must embrace that past as part of their future.
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Post by brp on Sept 20, 2023 14:04:50 GMT -5
but to do that, a leader must embrace that past as part of their future. Very easy to say. Much harder to do. Also very easy to criticize from the armchair.
Cheers.
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Post by henrycpa on Sept 21, 2023 7:44:42 GMT -5
but to do that, a leader must embrace that past as part of their future. Very easy to say. Much harder to do. Also very easy to criticize from the armchair.
Cheers.
I disagree. From personal experience. I am in a industry that has now realized what we did in the past is not they way we needed to do it. And My company was one that did it by the book and the book was wrong. But we celebrate our past and recognize the issues but build off the success. For Disney, that is VERY LOW HANGING fruit. But the leadership at the BOD and C Suite appears to weak to do it. |
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Post by cpnkirk on Sept 21, 2023 8:10:33 GMT -5
From the chart you sent, I see 2 people on the top line that have recently announced departures: Christine McCarthy, CFO and Diane Jurgens, CIO.
Iger has said that he thinks Disney should have more creative people running the show, so I'm hopeful that some of those folks will move up.
I think that in an organization as large as Disney, the amount of change that is needed can't be done overnight, but we are here posting every day. Iger's been back in the driver's seat for almost a year. I've seen a few changes that I like (return of AP, dropping of park reservations, changes to ADR process), but more of course is needed. And the changes I've seen are small - not even enough to notice in the course of a company that large. I notice them because they will affect me when I go to WDW. Hopefully he has bigger changes coming, and seeing these high level executives leave the company could be a sign of that. I just don't know if he's asking them to leave, or if they don't like the changes they see and are leaving for those reasons.
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Post by tomandrobin on Sept 21, 2023 10:39:50 GMT -5
The problem with leaders like Walt is those types of people are groundbreakers, not rule followers. Thy are not with the norm and are visionaries, that make things happen that never happened before. Those types of people tend to be controversial, not exactly "model" employees.
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Post by brp on Sept 21, 2023 12:52:32 GMT -5
Very easy to say. Much harder to do. Also very easy to criticize from the armchair.
Cheers.
I disagree. From personal experience. I am in a industry that has now realized what we did in the past is not they way we needed to do it. And My company was one that did it by the book and the book was wrong. But we celebrate our past and recognize the issues but build off the success. For Disney, that is VERY LOW HANGING fruit. But the leadership at the BOD and C Suite appears to weak to do it. Ok, we can disagree on how east this would be for Disney to do. And I will give your experience in your industry all due consideration.
Cheers.
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